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2. Eldering: Weighing the Past


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  • Amen
    By : Nathan On October 8th 2019
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    I feel like I resonate with this whole concept deeply but I pretty much don't understand why. My spirit senses the bigness but I can't appropriate it... Yet. Inviting the Lord's wisdom and understanding. And I add my "Amen" to this discussion.

  • values update
    By : Tamara Buchan On September 5th 2019
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    I love the choices you've made. I relate to so many of them. I like that you are moving towards a transformation of culture, vs. individuals. My spirit leaped at each statement, thanks for sharing them!

  • Thank you!
    By : Dawn On August 30th 2019
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    A most excellent share - thank you!

  • Eldering
    By : Diana Clemons On August 29th 2019
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    "BUT in this eldering season, the things we will be doing will be far more offensive to the culture and will result in a Withering Blast Of Fury From Other Sectors Than we have tangled with in the past."
    This seems to be the current culture.

  • This resonates
    By : Mary-Anne Simpson On August 29th 2019
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    I will be circling back to this it resonates with me. I've felt some of these without understanding or having the language, thank you.

  • Latest Blog
    By : Patricia Howes On August 29th 2019
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    Arthur, I so appreciate your supple, legerity to what God is indicating for now. You call it eldering, I see it as Fathering. In the natural we are witnessing the dying off of many beneficial service philanthropies because of their failure to reproduce. May it never be so for SLG! Press on dear brother who has taught me so much!

    Replied by : Arthur Burk Well, I think there is an immense difference between fathering and eldering. I am leaving the season of fathering and will be doing less and less of that. You may wish to explore the streaming video that discusses the topic at length.

  • Eldering
    By : Becky On August 29th 2019
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    Yes! Thanks for putting words to empowering vs enabling and transformational vs informative... the shoes will take some time to break in, but good stuff. I have seen the term “vocational suffering” used for the pushback from culture, friends and darkness for doing right. Looking forward to seeing this built out further... one of those things that seems so wrong yet is so right at the same time.

  • new mentoring
    By : Judy Dalton On August 29th 2019
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    I agree with this. I have temporarily stepped away from doing any ministry for a few months now. Partly because the Lord said to, partly because we made a big physical move, partly because John and I had some preparatory work to do in ourselves before we moved, and partly because I was so tired and burned out from wrestling with the people who wanted someone else to do all their work for them. No. My job is to teach you to go to Jesus and I will assist you. I am not your saviour, He is. We have become lazy people who want someone else to do the zap and whap thing and all is well. I decided a few things about who I will work with and how so my time and energy will be invested in the foot soldiers who are on their way to becoming great warriors.

  • Eldering
    By : Kathy Bigby On August 29th 2019
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    Number 5 and 6 are tough. I have been living 1 through 4 principles my entire life: married for 49 years, 3 biological sons, 3 adopted daughters, 20 years of foster care and exchange students from around the world, and now I have a ministry TEAM of 20,30,40 somethings in the Pacific N. W. I raised my kids in church, did the youth group thing, and realized that church isn't for the "Elders." We now have a home group where we disciple: we don't preach at or try and control. The transformational, not informational, thing is huge and forces us to FULLY lean on the Father: the ultimate leadership skill and respected by very few in our present day culture. I think the last one, #6, is going to "happen to us" whether we want it or not. Not "defending ourselves" is about Godly integrity, and will get more and more difficult to walk in as the pressure to "conform" to "man-made grace" increases. So, my comment is, I am incredibly interested in where you go with #5 and #6. All of us "Elders" out here need some help in moving from individual to societal shifting as we move forward in transforming the generations following us, AND we need to be supported by those on similar journeys, with will help sustain us during the flaming darts of those who have been attacking us from 20 plus years, and are ramping up to finally take us out completely. Thanks for ALL you do. BTW: I LOVE your fractal of two teaching/prayers!!!! It has been HUGELY impactful for me and many on my TEAM!!

  • Thanks
    By : Markus Schreiber On August 29th 2019
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    Great, let's be transformational!

  • A call to more
    By : Jason Blaiklock On August 29th 2019
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    love the challenge of "fiercely focused leadership to make the shift" a call to go deeper and higher.

  • Corporate values
    By : Walter J Witham On August 28th 2019
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    Thank you Arthur for the perspective. This sets the bar and provides a great template for developing our individual values. This will give a few of us local tribe members some framework to link arms and build into our locals together. Running on the cutting edge without a value set such as this is just flaky. Taking risks from a well thought out framework such as this allows us to be dangerous. Thanks much for the elegant language that paints such a powerful picture.

    Replied by : Arthur Burk Glad to allow you to look over my shoulder while I am thinking out loud. My values are not going to be portable to everyone else in the Tribe, since we are on different journeys and in different places in our journeys, but the PROCESS of hammering out the values has much that is portable. Help yourself!

  • Thanks!
    By : Pamela B On August 28th 2019
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    Thank you so much for being so responsible with the previous seasons and following through where you were directed. Its so cool that you revisit the SLG values to keep up with the way God transitions the seasons.
    Blessings on this next season! May the transformation flow as easily as words from God's heart to yours and may we as a tribe synchronize with the transformations God wants to bring and take the garden to the non-garden part of the world with joy regardless of the pain that may come. May your heart be full and overflowing with awe of the God Who Does Big Cultural Transformation with Panache!

  • Meat worth digesting
    By : Janis Leal On August 28th 2019
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    Yay, I get to be considered “astute,” because I’ve definitely noticed the silence on this topic (understanding, of course, the delay)! “Failure… is highly valued” are still, even in the shift, words like water to my soul, in the simple validation of the “okay-ness” of it (if as a learning experience), and juxtaposed against your forward-looking statement for the new season that “it will be important to fail less,” is something to chew on while navigating the course, especially in the current culture, of the subsequent five points you make. I’m also marinating in, “The relentless demand for enabling in the name of God, and the sophisticated guilt manipulation used to get that from us, means we need to keep an eye on this issue.” Again, especially in light of the current culture that seem to violently war in newer ways against true empowerment vs. false “empowerment,” this challenge has seemed to take on a new flavor. Plenty of substance to digest here, and I’m so grateful for it. And your word in the title, “Weighing,” even affects my spirit in a way I can’t describe, like having multiple meanings. Question: Could you clarify the difference(s) between building and investing? I like the distinction you make for the new season but would like to know your perspective on the nuanced and/or clear-cut differences between those two actions. Thank you for this, and for taking the necessary time to let it come forward – Janis

    Replied by : Arthur Burk You invest in someone who is only a taker. So for the first 18 to 48 years you invest in your kids giving them massive amounts of time, stuff and wisdom. You build with people who are sufficiently far along that they can give back. Somewhere in there, you hope to be able to build a family dynamic where one kid mows the lawn while the other trims the hedges and the third gathers the clippings for the compost pile. The line between investing in someone and building with someone is a broad zone, not a moment in time, but it is very clear that some people are so shattered that they are not able to give back at this season. Look at Jesus. He invested in a lot of people who never gave back. But toward the end, He pulled back from investing, because He needed to double down on building His guys. Notice that He did NO healing miracles after the resurrection, and it wasn't because the battery was dead. He was in mega-focused building mode, watching the minutes slip by, knowing He had exactly 40 days to finish up the in-person building here on earth. Building precluded investing at that season, whereas investing was often dominant at the beginning. Look at the water into wine. Mary wanted this to be an investment event, where He helped out some hurting people. He sidestepped it and turned it into a building event, by doing it out of the sight of the crowd, but showing His disciples what He could do.

  • One more thing
    By : Janis Leal On August 28th 2019
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    I can't believe I forgot to comment on #6. That one is the glaring highlight, because "hate hurts." VERY much looking forward to your repacking it in different language and the progress towards the massive upgrade.....